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Re: Tijek misli ..
by *madonna* pet tra 08, 2016 11:24 pm
gledam csi i bas se zagledam u horatia i shvatim da mi je ful jebozovan. do unzad kratko vrijeme bio mi je samo izvrstan glumac ali sigurno prestar za mene. onda pomislim kako je builder samo skroz drugaciji tip osobe i drzanja pa skuzim da sam pomislila glupost.
jbt pocinjem se paliti na dedeke
jbt pocinjem se paliti na dedeke
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Re: Tijek misli ..
by *madonna* pet tra 08, 2016 11:25 pm
gledam csi i bas se zagledam u horatia i shvatim da mi je ful jebozovan. do unzad kratko vrijeme bio mi je samo izvrstan glumac ali sigurno prestar za mene. onda pomislim kako je builder samo skroz drugaciji tip osobe i drzanja pa skuzim da sam pomislila glupost.
jbt pocinjem se paliti na dedeke
jbt pocinjem se paliti na dedeke
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Re: Tijek misli ..
by Gost sub tra 09, 2016 6:16 pm
Buffy je napisao/la:
Ramišljam o djeci, odraslim ljudima već... Ponosna sam kako u ključnim momentima ispadnu veliki ljudi.
Gost- Gost
Re: Tijek misli ..
by Gost sub tra 09, 2016 6:18 pm
*madonna* je napisao/la:gledam csi i bas se zagledam u horatia i shvatim da mi je ful jebozovan. do unzad kratko vrijeme bio mi je samo izvrstan glumac ali sigurno prestar za mene. onda pomislim kako je builder samo skroz drugaciji tip osobe i drzanja pa skuzim da sam pomislila glupost.
jbt pocinjem se paliti na dedeke
Pa nije on bas dedek. Barem nije bio u vrijeme snimanja te serije. I meni je on najdrazi od tih CSI zvjerki. Svidja mi se njegova mirnoca, stalozenost i ucinkovitost.
Gost- Gost
Re: Tijek misli ..
by Gost sub tra 09, 2016 6:26 pm
I da, oprostite ako vas buni moje konstantno mijenjanje nickova. Ne znam, te promjene prate raspolozenja i trenutne spoznaje. Postalo mi je dosadno vezivati se uz odredjeni nick i/li av.
Gost- Gost
Re: Tijek misli ..
by *madonna* ned tra 10, 2016 12:49 am
da mogu , vjerovatno bi i ja mijenjala nickove ponekad ali bi se uvijek vracala na lastu. ovako mijenjam samo avatare. iz istog razlogaIthildin je napisao/la:I da, oprostite ako vas buni moje konstantno mijenjanje nickova. Ne znam, te promjene prate raspolozenja i trenutne spoznaje. Postalo mi je dosadno vezivati se uz odredjeni nick i/li av.
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Re: Tijek misli ..
by besposlenpop ned tra 10, 2016 12:00 pm
Ma Suada, ti si konstanta ko i Pi.Ithildin je napisao/la:I da, oprostite ako vas buni moje konstantno mijenjanje nickova. Ne znam, te promjene prate raspolozenja i trenutne spoznaje. Postalo mi je dosadno vezivati se uz odredjeni nick i/li av.
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Re: Tijek misli ..
by Gost ned tra 10, 2016 12:14 pm
A ja sam mislila da svi mozemo. Znaci, kad kliknete na "profil", pronadjete "korisnicko ime", izbrisete ga i stavite novi nick te sejvate promjenu. Idem vidjeti je li to omoguceno, a ako nije, omogucit cu.
Gost- Gost
Re: Tijek misli ..
by Gost ned tra 10, 2016 12:14 pm
besposlenpop je napisao/la:Ma Suada, ti si konstanta ko i Pi.Ithildin je napisao/la:I da, oprostite ako vas buni moje konstantno mijenjanje nickova. Ne znam, te promjene prate raspolozenja i trenutne spoznaje. Postalo mi je dosadno vezivati se uz odredjeni nick i/li av.
Hvala Pope! : )))
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Re: Tijek misli ..
by Gost ned tra 10, 2016 12:19 pm
*madonna* je napisao/la:da mogu , vjerovatno bi i ja mijenjala nickove ponekad ali bi se uvijek vracala na lastu. ovako mijenjam samo avatare. iz istog razlogaIthildin je napisao/la:I da, oprostite ako vas buni moje konstantno mijenjanje nickova. Ne znam, te promjene prate raspolozenja i trenutne spoznaje. Postalo mi je dosadno vezivati se uz odredjeni nick i/li av.
Ithildin je napisao/la:A ja sam mislila da svi mozemo. Znaci, kad kliknete na "profil", pronadjete "korisnicko ime", izbrisete ga i stavite novi nick te sejvate promjenu. Idem vidjeti je li to omoguceno, a ako nije, omogucit cu.
Je, je, dozvoljeno je mijenjanje nickova. Esco je to omogucio. Znaci samo slijedite gornje upute. :-)
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Re: Tijek misli ..
by *madonna* pon tra 11, 2016 1:10 am
Ithildin je napisao/la:*madonna* je napisao/la:da mogu , vjerovatno bi i ja mijenjala nickove ponekad ali bi se uvijek vracala na lastu. ovako mijenjam samo avatare. iz istog razlogaIthildin je napisao/la:I da, oprostite ako vas buni moje konstantno mijenjanje nickova. Ne znam, te promjene prate raspolozenja i trenutne spoznaje. Postalo mi je dosadno vezivati se uz odredjeni nick i/li av.Ithildin je napisao/la:A ja sam mislila da svi mozemo. Znaci, kad kliknete na "profil", pronadjete "korisnicko ime", izbrisete ga i stavite novi nick te sejvate promjenu. Idem vidjeti je li to omoguceno, a ako nije, omogucit cu.
Je, je, dozvoljeno je mijenjanje nickova. Esco je to omogucio. Znaci samo slijedite gornje upute. :-)
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Re: Tijek misli ..
by Gost sri tra 27, 2016 7:37 pm
Već kad sam u prolazu da ostavim nešto za učenje i razmišljanje
Do you believe large companies in America are objective meritocracies that promote the brightest, most effective people? Do you believe our economy is governed by rational, dispassionate free-market principles? Do you believe companies on the whole are efficient and led by competent professionals? You won’t, after reading this book. Rule Zero reveals how large corporations really work, in all their hypocrisy, injustice, and incompetence.
THE DOLSON PRINCIPLE: The Higher the Management Level, the Easier the Job
A more serious criticism of the Peter Principle, or at least of its popular application through the years, is that it is based on a fundamentally flawed assumption: that successively higher levels in a hierarchy require increasing levels of competence. In fact, the dirty open secret of all organizations is that the higher one rises in management, the easier the job gets. This is the Dolson Principle.
Non-management positions require technical knowledge and are judged by harsh standards. Lower-level management positions are often transitional in nature; some detailed knowledge is still required and standards can also be exacting. Once one enters upper management, the level of useful knowledge demanded decreases continuously. When one arrives at the position of CEO, it is essentially zero.
When you work at the lower levels, you have to know something because you are the product. When you work at the higher levels, you have to know very little, because you effectively own the product. The nebulous “relationship building” that consumes so much time at the upper echelons is mostly make-work. The great captains liaise with each other and talk football. Each is necessary only because the other is there. It is quite possible that those who are promoted to very high levels may find themselves in positions for which they are grossly overqualified. Thus it is difficult to envision someone being promoted to his “level of incompetence.” One should rather worry about being demoted to one’s “level of incompetence.”
However, do not expect that all the executives in the upper echelons are actually overqualified for their easy jobs. There are a number of mechanisms that operate to keep those positions from being filled by overly competent people. For example, there is an organizational incentive to keep able individuals down at the lower levels. There they can do the work that ultimately enriches shareholders and executives. Such able individuals are typically branded as “valuable assets” who nevertheless do not have the “broad view,” “relationship skills,” or “business vision” necessary for the exalted top jobs. At some point, someone—somewhere—has to do some real work, and even the executives know it. In many cases, productive lower-level people may actually be paid well, at least temporarily, but they will never achieve the riches of the executive class, and will rarely be allowed entry into it.
Another mechanism that serves to keep good people out of the top jobs has its roots in specialization. People doing real work will invariably be identified with a particular specialty, however broad their real talents may be. Such individuals will also tend to be linked to particular programs, product lines, and points of view, all of which may go in and out of fashion. Mortality rates are high. Executive management, on the other hand, is eternal and above the fray. The executive suite will tend to fill up with people who transcend particular specialties, product lines, and points of view[2]. There are two ways to transcend: one is to know everything, and the other is to know nothing at all. In the executive suite, the latter seems to be the preferred route.
It is significant that top executives rarely come from the technical ranks. Many rise up through finance. The best never get too deeply involved in actual financial calculations, but develop excellent skills in parroting figures that are supplied to them, and making those figures sound weighty. Others rise through sales and marketing. These two functions are even better preparation for the vapid non-jobs at the top. They are superb training vehicles for improving such important qualities as insincere passion and unscrupulous deception. Salesmen like to brag that they can sell anything, regardless of what it is. This is probably true. A liar can lie about almost any subject. An honest man can only tell the truth about what he actually knows.
Iconocracy = Aristocracy based purely on image
All large corporations are distinguished by the existence of a tenacious aristocracy of varying degrees of uselessness. The function of the aristocracy is to preserve its own power and maximize its wealth. The corporate aristocrat’s chief skills are posing for other useless aristocrats, fooling them, fighting them, and creating an acceptable and thoroughly false image for his peers and the outside world. Thus he is an iconocrat: an aristocrat of image.
Rule Zero: Image is Reality
Rule One: (a) Apparent Activity is more important than Activity
(b) Activity is more Important than Accomplishment
Rule Two: Words Speak Louder than Actions
Rule Three: Correlation is Causation
Rule Four: (a) Degrees are more Important than Knowledge
(b) Job Titles are more important than Experience
Rule Five: Cheating Usually Pays
-------------------------------------------
If you believe large companies are objective meritocracies that promote the brightest, most effective people
If you believe the economy is governed by rational, dispassionate free-market principles
If you believe organizations on the whole are efficient and led by competent professionals
If you believe talent, competence, integrity, and hard work will move you ahead....
......THEN HAVE YOU GOT A LOT TO LEARN!
https://sites.google.com/site/rulezerorules/
https://sites.google.com/site/rulezerorules/the-dolson-principle
The Dolson Principle
| (Excerpted from the book Rule Zero: How Things Really Work, by D. Dolson Dolson, (ISBN 978-1-4507-9914-0), available free here. All content Copyright © by D. Dolson Dolson; All rights reserved.) |
Do you believe large companies in America are objective meritocracies that promote the brightest, most effective people? Do you believe our economy is governed by rational, dispassionate free-market principles? Do you believe companies on the whole are efficient and led by competent professionals? You won’t, after reading this book. Rule Zero reveals how large corporations really work, in all their hypocrisy, injustice, and incompetence.
THE DOLSON PRINCIPLE: The Higher the Management Level, the Easier the Job
A more serious criticism of the Peter Principle, or at least of its popular application through the years, is that it is based on a fundamentally flawed assumption: that successively higher levels in a hierarchy require increasing levels of competence. In fact, the dirty open secret of all organizations is that the higher one rises in management, the easier the job gets. This is the Dolson Principle.
Non-management positions require technical knowledge and are judged by harsh standards. Lower-level management positions are often transitional in nature; some detailed knowledge is still required and standards can also be exacting. Once one enters upper management, the level of useful knowledge demanded decreases continuously. When one arrives at the position of CEO, it is essentially zero.
When you work at the lower levels, you have to know something because you are the product. When you work at the higher levels, you have to know very little, because you effectively own the product. The nebulous “relationship building” that consumes so much time at the upper echelons is mostly make-work. The great captains liaise with each other and talk football. Each is necessary only because the other is there. It is quite possible that those who are promoted to very high levels may find themselves in positions for which they are grossly overqualified. Thus it is difficult to envision someone being promoted to his “level of incompetence.” One should rather worry about being demoted to one’s “level of incompetence.”
However, do not expect that all the executives in the upper echelons are actually overqualified for their easy jobs. There are a number of mechanisms that operate to keep those positions from being filled by overly competent people. For example, there is an organizational incentive to keep able individuals down at the lower levels. There they can do the work that ultimately enriches shareholders and executives. Such able individuals are typically branded as “valuable assets” who nevertheless do not have the “broad view,” “relationship skills,” or “business vision” necessary for the exalted top jobs. At some point, someone—somewhere—has to do some real work, and even the executives know it. In many cases, productive lower-level people may actually be paid well, at least temporarily, but they will never achieve the riches of the executive class, and will rarely be allowed entry into it.
Another mechanism that serves to keep good people out of the top jobs has its roots in specialization. People doing real work will invariably be identified with a particular specialty, however broad their real talents may be. Such individuals will also tend to be linked to particular programs, product lines, and points of view, all of which may go in and out of fashion. Mortality rates are high. Executive management, on the other hand, is eternal and above the fray. The executive suite will tend to fill up with people who transcend particular specialties, product lines, and points of view[2]. There are two ways to transcend: one is to know everything, and the other is to know nothing at all. In the executive suite, the latter seems to be the preferred route.
It is significant that top executives rarely come from the technical ranks. Many rise up through finance. The best never get too deeply involved in actual financial calculations, but develop excellent skills in parroting figures that are supplied to them, and making those figures sound weighty. Others rise through sales and marketing. These two functions are even better preparation for the vapid non-jobs at the top. They are superb training vehicles for improving such important qualities as insincere passion and unscrupulous deception. Salesmen like to brag that they can sell anything, regardless of what it is. This is probably true. A liar can lie about almost any subject. An honest man can only tell the truth about what he actually knows.
Iconocracy = Aristocracy based purely on image
All large corporations are distinguished by the existence of a tenacious aristocracy of varying degrees of uselessness. The function of the aristocracy is to preserve its own power and maximize its wealth. The corporate aristocrat’s chief skills are posing for other useless aristocrats, fooling them, fighting them, and creating an acceptable and thoroughly false image for his peers and the outside world. Thus he is an iconocrat: an aristocrat of image.
Rule Zero: Image is Reality
Rule One: (a) Apparent Activity is more important than Activity
(b) Activity is more Important than Accomplishment
Rule Two: Words Speak Louder than Actions
Rule Three: Correlation is Causation
Rule Four: (a) Degrees are more Important than Knowledge
(b) Job Titles are more important than Experience
Rule Five: Cheating Usually Pays
-------------------------------------------
If you believe large companies are objective meritocracies that promote the brightest, most effective people
If you believe the economy is governed by rational, dispassionate free-market principles
If you believe organizations on the whole are efficient and led by competent professionals
If you believe talent, competence, integrity, and hard work will move you ahead....
......THEN HAVE YOU GOT A LOT TO LEARN!
https://sites.google.com/site/rulezerorules/
https://sites.google.com/site/rulezerorules/the-dolson-principle
Gost- Gost
Re: Tijek misli ..
by whisperer čet svi 19, 2016 2:42 pm
"Često se dogodi da izgovorim laži koje su vrlo istinite".
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Re: Tijek misli ..
by kic sri pro 28, 2016 12:24 am
što se događa s osobama koje udare nosom o zid u životu na neki način, te sva njihova životna filozofija dolazi na kušnju i odjednom, i nije im više previše nešto bitna, iritira ih, imaju politički program u koji bi voljeli vjerovati ali kao i političke stranke kad sjednu sastavljati proračun, svi dugoročni principi i gledišta postaju nebitni i bitno se najesti i oteti sad i odmah, i svatko tko ima, je neprijatelj i sve je sveti rat iznebuha..
tako rekoh jednoj osobi koja je dobila nepravedno otkaz, reko jebiga, nakon par navrata ohrabrivanja malo sam sebi dosadio pa mu reko, ok, nek ti to bude poruka iz nelinearnog kozmosa da nikom drugom ne činiš nepravdu jer vidiš kako je, gubitak radnog mjesta nije mala stvar, ali nije ni razlog da se instant pretvorimo u žrtve i kukavice, uvrijedio se naravno i povukao, sutra bi vjerojatno prošao pored mene kad bi vidio da me tuku na ulici dvojica sa zadovoljstvom na licu..
vjerojatno pretjerujem, ali što sam stariji, čvršći imam osjećaj, da ljudi jako lako, jako brzo padaju.. ne treba im puno..
tako rekoh jednoj osobi koja je dobila nepravedno otkaz, reko jebiga, nakon par navrata ohrabrivanja malo sam sebi dosadio pa mu reko, ok, nek ti to bude poruka iz nelinearnog kozmosa da nikom drugom ne činiš nepravdu jer vidiš kako je, gubitak radnog mjesta nije mala stvar, ali nije ni razlog da se instant pretvorimo u žrtve i kukavice, uvrijedio se naravno i povukao, sutra bi vjerojatno prošao pored mene kad bi vidio da me tuku na ulici dvojica sa zadovoljstvom na licu..
vjerojatno pretjerujem, ali što sam stariji, čvršći imam osjećaj, da ljudi jako lako, jako brzo padaju.. ne treba im puno..
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Re: Tijek misli ..
by kic sri pro 28, 2016 12:49 am
filozofija kao intelektualni blef, postavljanje pitanja je puno vaznije, kad nas pogode teski trenuci odbacujemo filozofiju iako je ona dizajnirana kao neka usmjeravajuca pomoc u teskim dilemama, sto zelimo postici, kakav covjek zelimo ispasti, hocu li prijaviti kriminal ako ga vidim, sve to izbjegavamo da bi sacuvali sebe, a paradoksalno, takvim cahurenjem, mozda zapravo gubimo nekog pravog sebe..
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Re: Tijek misli ..
by besposlenpop sri pro 28, 2016 9:16 am
Pa ne bi baš rekel da odbacujemo filozofiju, nego da se u takvim trenucima baviš egzistencijalnim pitanjima i sve drugo je nebitno. Štono bi se reklo, nema tada "selo gori, a baba se češlja".kic je napisao/la:filozofija kao intelektualni blef, postavljanje pitanja je puno vaznije, kad nas pogode teski trenuci odbacujemo filozofiju iako je ona dizajnirana kao neka usmjeravajuca pomoc u teskim dilemama, sto zelimo postici, kakav covjek zelimo ispasti, hocu li prijaviti kriminal ako ga vidim, sve to izbjegavamo da bi sacuvali sebe, a paradoksalno, takvim cahurenjem, mozda zapravo gubimo nekog pravog sebe..
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Re: Tijek misli ..
by kic sri pro 28, 2016 7:36 pm
ma to je razumljivo, gubitak posla je jedna od težih stvari koja se može dogoditi, i to je nekako, nepotrebno naglasiti, valjda..
znam da sam zvučao kao kapitalist koji beskućniku baca listiće natječa za posao u McDonaldsu u lice, ali fucking ne volim to perpetuiranje neke kivnosti, razlomila mu se fasada njegove vjere u život, i u tom vakumu ulazi neko zlo, ne vidim u budućnost, ali mogu osjetiti kako će jednog dana oštetiti drugoga, pod plaštom poučavanja će misliti da čini dobro i da će nekog očeličiti, tako što će mu podmetnuti nogu i prijeć preko njega kao leša..
uostalom ja volim kad netko preslaguje svoj pogled na svijet, tu i pomažem i zanima me, ali ovo je više neko urušavanje i želja za povlačenjem drugih što me distancira..
znam da sam zvučao kao kapitalist koji beskućniku baca listiće natječa za posao u McDonaldsu u lice, ali fucking ne volim to perpetuiranje neke kivnosti, razlomila mu se fasada njegove vjere u život, i u tom vakumu ulazi neko zlo, ne vidim u budućnost, ali mogu osjetiti kako će jednog dana oštetiti drugoga, pod plaštom poučavanja će misliti da čini dobro i da će nekog očeličiti, tako što će mu podmetnuti nogu i prijeć preko njega kao leša..
uostalom ja volim kad netko preslaguje svoj pogled na svijet, tu i pomažem i zanima me, ali ovo je više neko urušavanje i želja za povlačenjem drugih što me distancira..
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Re: Tijek misli ..
by besposlenpop sri pro 28, 2016 7:47 pm
A e.kic je napisao/la:...
uostalom ja volim kad netko preslaguje svoj pogled na svijet, tu i pomažem i zanima me, ali ovo je više neko urušavanje i želja za povlačenjem drugih što me distancira..
Meni danas tajnica sjebala dan, onda sam fural kafe-aparat na servis u Dalmatinsku, pa makar nema gužve, svi seronje za volanom su baš u to vreme našli plazit po Zelenom valu, a tam nemreš parkirat, pa kišica jebe po tavanu, jedva vidiš kud voziš - kombinacija kmice i refleksije farova, a stakla mutna, pa parkiral na drugom kraju kvarta u Prilazu, pa mi promočila cipela do servisa, pa deda ne zna kaj bi s dodatnom garancijom, pa lepo pokupi De Longhija vragmumater digićku, i u Harvey Norman koji su mi to smeće prodali - zarekel sam se da od tih majmuna kupujem do kraja života jedino kavu, pičkaimmaterina s bofl-industrijom, za njih su i Kinezi Švabe ... čak im je i zadnji papa trajal mesec dana!
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Re: Tijek misli ..
by besposlenpop čet pro 29, 2016 7:30 pm
Danas sam pozitivan, valjda jer sam se jučer ispucal i jer puše bura. 
Možda bi ipak trebalo imat doma vreću za boks ...?
Možda bi ipak trebalo imat doma vreću za boks ...?
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